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- From: genew@mindlink.bc.ca (Gene Wirchenko)
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- Subject: Re: Can we do programming without seeing the end user?
- Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 06:50:09 GMT
- Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
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- aax@ix.netcom.com(ANDREW GRYGUS ) wrote:
-
- >In <BYtKnOggyTxQ071yn@oslonett.no> bollerud@oslonett.no (Svein Olav
- >Mytting) writes:
- >>
- >>I sort of believe that sales and programming should be strictly
- >>separate tasks. While a salesman should see his customer in person,
- >>a programmer shouldn't do that.
-
- The tasks are separate. That doesn't mean that programmers
- should be locked away.
-
- >This attitude is certainly prevalent among programmers, and probably a
- >major reason there is so much worthless trash out there claiming to be
- >business software. Most computer accounting programs, for instance,
- >are so riddled with >>>>>>>ABSOLUTELY STUPID<<<<<<< omissions and
- >deficiencies as to be next to unusable.
-
- "Hear, hear! Well spoken, Bruce!" -Monty Python
- I agree wholeheartedly!
- "next"? In the sense of on the other side of!
- ">>>>>>>ABSOLUTELY STUPID<<<<<<<" is being very polite about it. Try
- something with the word "incompetent".
-
- >If the programmer, or head programmer of a group, has not lived with
- >the client's job long enought to do it, and do it well - s/he has no
- >business writing any code for that job.
-
- I'm not quite that extreme. I would say that if the designer can
- not tell the client something non-trivial about the job that the
- client doesn't already know, the water is probably too deep.
-
- >Unfortunately, this is a very rare exception, as most programmers have
- >no interest outside their field. It shows, guys, it really shows.
-
- Damn straight!
-
- >Andrew Grygus - California Republic
- >---------------------------------------
- >Resist Microsoft!
-
- ...or "Desist, Microsoft!"?
-
- Sincerely,
-
- Gene Wirchenko
-
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